"Married Priests"/Rock on Marriage/ General Answers the Question - 3/13/07

Tue Mar 13 15:51:09 EDT 2007

- AMAZING ARTICLE: THE MILINGO AFFAIR
- ROCK FELL OUT WITH DIRECTOR OVER MARRIAGE DIFFERENCES
- CULTURE CHANGE QUESTION ANSWERED BY THE GENERAL
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- AMAZING ARTICLE: THE MILINGO AFFAIR

The cover story of The Washington Post Sunday Magazine, "The Milingo Affair:
A Marriage Made in Heaven" is one of the most amazing articles I've read in
a long time.  I read it two days ago and I'm still sitting here with my
mouth hanging open, just stunned.  Milingo is a Catholic Archbishop from
Africa who is being mentored/supported by the Rev Sun Moon. Moon selected
the Archbishop's bride  a very spunky acupuncturist. The article explores
Rev Moon and his Unification Church's stand on marriage (it's the core of
their theology) and their pitched battle with the Catholic theology of
celibacy. It covers the mission of "Married Priests Now" and of Moon's new
organization, the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification (FFWPU).
There's so much international intrigue  including Popes and politicians,
funding and exorcism  that you'll wonder how all this could be happening
without your awareness. Or, maybe it's only me. Maybe you know all about it.

For the full article with great photos (you must click on the photo link):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content//article/2007/03/06/AR200703060
1574.html 

The on-line discussion with the author, Peter Manseau, son of a priest and a
nun, continues the lessons -

> Celibacy is a discipline of the Roman Catholic Church; it is not a dogma.
> Leaving aside the question as to whether the discipline should be changed, it
> could be changed very easily. The number of exceptions to the rule confirm
> this: Already certain married men are allowed to be Catholic priests, while
> others are not. For Milingo, marriage did not represent a change of belief but
> a change of practice.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/03/09/DI2007030
901518.html

- diane  

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- ROCK FELL OUT WITH DIRECTOR OVER MARRIAGE DIFFERENCES
www.contactmusic.com
March 13, 2007 

> Only married people understand marriage."

Funnyman CHRIS ROCK chose to direct himself in new comedy I THINK I LOVE MY
WIFE after realising his first choice wasn't married. The comedian admits he
and the unnamed filmmaker had a series of "creative differences" on set -
because the director he helped hire couldn't understand what it was like to
be in a committed relationship. In the film, Rock plays a married man
resisting temptation as he struggles with the monotony of his relationship.
He says, "We had a falling out. He wasn't married and it's really a married
person's movie... Only married people understand marriage."

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- CULTURE CHANGE QUESTION ANSWERED BY THE GENERAL
I know you probably saw that the chairman of the military Joint Chiefs of
Staff, General Peter Pace, answered the question about whether Giuliani,
McCain, Gingrich, etc can be president. He said homosexuals can't serve
openly in the military, because they are immoral  that just like adultery,
homosexuality is immoral.  Logic would then have it that you can't serve
openly as Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces if you're
immoral - whether as an adulterer or a homosexual. You once told me you
wouldn't post my email because I wanted to remain anonymous. I suspect it
was the subject matter.  I argue that this is an issue you raised - this
question of presidential campaign, infidelity and divorce, and suitability
to serve. And, I can send you at least two dozen posts you've shared since
you rejected mine where you let people post with no signature, or just a
first name.  I don't want my name used, not first or last, or my email
address, or my city. I am a listserv subscriber and I have attended three
conferences and I would like the privilege of posting anonymously since, as
the general points out, I'd be nuts to do this "openly". - XX

You're right.  Several years ago I began requiring signatures then dropped
that when so many with really interesting things to say felt they needed
anonymity. I asked my advisory group and it was pointed out that different
lists do it different ways, there's no rule.  I sometimes don't post an item
because it's not about Marriage Education but, as you say, you're responding
to a thread about presidential suitability and cultural change, that I let
get started.  However, anticipating all the emails explaining what the
general meant or what the Bible says, I am not going to let this thread go
on and on. I'm going to share your comment and then   break it.  Just as I
didn't post the dozens of comments (and confessions) about the NY Times
article about couples sharing bedrooms. Though you'd probably all like to
know what I know, now, about which of our esteemed presenters and fellow
subscribers sleep with their spouses, or not, and the very strongly held
opinions about what's "smart" about sharing, or not sharing, bedrooms. I can
tell you it broke about even - and both ways can apparently work just fine
and be just as sexy.

I point out, once again, that there are good reasons this list is moderated.
One is to keep the posts down to an almost bearable number/length. Another
to protect some of you from what you share in a moment of enthusiasm about
wanting to help others. And, another is to edit out some really unpleasant
language and opinions.  I does my best.  And, if you think it takes you a
long time to read them, you should see how long it takes me to moderate.   -
diane  

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