[PC-BH-Integration] co-location vs integration

Nancy Halloran nshalloran at sonic.net
Wed Jan 28 13:20:22 EST 2009 

What are the key distinguishing characteristics between co-location 
and integration?
I need to succinctly describe this to some clinics that are 
considering their model for providing BH and PC on site. Is there a 
source that conveniently describes the distinctions?

Nancy
Nancy S. Halloran, MPH
Program Development, Proposals, & Project Management
Health Equity Partnership & Community Institute for Healthcare Equity
614 Grand Ave, Suite 400
Oakland, Ca 94610

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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:44:02 -0700
>From: "Bill Schlesinger" <bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org>
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>To: <pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com>
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>We've been working with the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health for about
>three years.  We're an FQHC and using the care manager model similar to
>IMPACT.  We tried co-location - it didn't work.  We've been funded for
>service expansion funds from HRSA which stabilized the project.  I'll be
>glad to respond to specific requests for information -- the Hogg website has
>a lot of the model information at
>http://www.hogg.utexas.edu/programs_ihc.html
>
>
>Bill Schlesinger
>Project Vida
>3607 Rivera Ave
>El Paso, TX 79905
>(915) 533-7057 x 207
>(915) 490-6148 mobile
>(915) 533-7158 fax
>bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:22:23 -0500
>From: Louise Haddock <lhaddock at yimaine.org>
>Subject: [PC-BH-Integration] HIPAA Issue Related to Computer Lock Out
>         Interval
>To: "'pc-bh-integration at nccbh.net'" <pc-bh-integration at nccbh.net>
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>We are searching for information related to the length of time that 
>organizations have in place related to computers locking users out 
>of the system. We are attempting to gather information from our 
>colleagues to assist us in establishing a benchmark. We have had a 
>request from 2 areas within our organization to lengthen the amount 
>of time at which the system locks a user out. They are as follows:
>
>1. A 24X7 crisis hotline unit that is located in a secure area with 
>key pad entry. Currently the system locks the user out after 10 
>minutes of no activity causing frequent log ins. No clients enter 
>this area, only employees.
>
>2. An outpatient clinic providing medication management services and 
>outpatient psychotherapy services. The minimum length of service is 
>30 minutes and the maximum is 90 minutes. This unit is in a secure 
>area with key pad entry, each provider of service is in a private 
>office, clients are escorted in and out of the office area by the 
>clinician treating them. The system locks users out after 10 minutes 
>of no activity.
>
>We would appreciate any information you may will willing to share with us.
>
>Thank you for your consideration.
>
>Louise Haddock
>VP Continuous Improvement
>Youth alternatives Ingraham
>lhaddock at yimaine.org<mailto:lhaddock at yimaine.org>
>207-523-5043
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:06:25 -0500
>From: "Kessler, Rodger S." <Rodger.Kessler at vtmednet.org>
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
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>Hi Bill, Why do you think the co location didn't work??Rodger
>
>Rodger Kessler Ph.D. ABPP
>Research Assistant Professor
>Department of Family Medicine
>Center for Translational Science
>University of Vermont College of Medicine
>Berlin Family Health
>Fletcher Allen Healthcare
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com 
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of 
>Bill Schlesinger
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:44 PM
>To: pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>We've been working with the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health for about
>three years.  We're an FQHC and using the care manager model similar to
>IMPACT.  We tried co-location - it didn't work.  We've been funded for
>service expansion funds from HRSA which stabilized the project.  I'll be
>glad to respond to specific requests for information -- the Hogg website has
>a lot of the model information at
>http://www.hogg.utexas.edu/programs_ihc.html
>
>
>Bill Schlesinger
>Project Vida
>3607 Rivera Ave
>El Paso, TX 79905
>(915) 533-7057 x 207
>(915) 490-6148 mobile
>(915) 533-7158 fax
>bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org
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>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:08 -0500
>From: "Blount, Alexander" <Alexander.Blount at umassmemorial.org>
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>To: <pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com>
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>As someone who trains mental health professionals to work in primary
>care
>(http://www.integratedprimarycare.com/Certificate%20Program_Email.htm) I
>am not surprised to hear you say the co-location doesn't work, but I
>wonder if you would be willing to say a bit more about what is behind
>that statement.  I think it could be helpful to people who are earlier
>in the process.
>
>Alexander Blount, EdD
>Clinical Professor of Family Medicine and Psychiatry
>University of Massachusetts Medical School
>Director of Behavioral Science
>Department of Family Medicine and Community Health
>Editor, Families, Systems, & Health
>O. 508 856-2147, F. 508 856-1212
>blounta at ummhc.org
>http://umassmed.edu/fmch/faculty/Blount.cfm?start=0
>http://www.IntegratedPrimaryCare.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>Schlesinger
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:44 PM
>To: pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>We've been working with the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health for about
>three years.  We're an FQHC and using the care manager model similar to
>IMPACT.  We tried co-location - it didn't work.  We've been funded for
>service expansion funds from HRSA which stabilized the project.  I'll be
>glad to respond to specific requests for information -- the Hogg website
>has
>a lot of the model information at
>http://www.hogg.utexas.edu/programs_ihc.html
>
>
>Bill Schlesinger
>Project Vida
>3607 Rivera Ave
>El Paso, TX 79905
>(915) 533-7057 x 207
>(915) 490-6148 mobile
>(915) 533-7158 fax
>bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:51:02 -0700
>From: "Bill Rosenfeld" <brosenfeld at mphc-az.org>
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>To: <pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com>
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>Because the lucky 100 who get the service doesn't match the mission of
>primary care, which serves everybody who walks through the door.  That
>is one of another 300 reasons that I could cite.    Hope you are well!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of
>Kessler, Rodger S.
>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:06 AM
>To: 'pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com'
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>Hi Bill, Why do you think the co location didn't work??Rodger
>
>Rodger Kessler Ph.D. ABPP
>Research Assistant Professor
>Department of Family Medicine
>Center for Translational Science
>University of Vermont College of Medicine
>Berlin Family Health
>Fletcher Allen Healthcare
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>Schlesinger
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:44 PM
>To: pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>We've been working with the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health for about
>three years.  We're an FQHC and using the care manager model similar to
>IMPACT.  We tried co-location - it didn't work.  We've been funded for
>service expansion funds from HRSA which stabilized the project.  I'll be
>glad to respond to specific requests for information -- the Hogg website
>has
>a lot of the model information at
>http://www.hogg.utexas.edu/programs_ihc.html
>
>
>Bill Schlesinger
>Project Vida
>3607 Rivera Ave
>El Paso, TX 79905
>(915) 533-7057 x 207
>(915) 490-6148 mobile
>(915) 533-7158 fax
>bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:48:45 -0800
>From: "KINNEY Charmaine" <charmaine.kinney at co.multnomah.or.us>
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>To: <pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com>
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>Are the "lucky" those who already have been identified and have been 
>in the Mental Health system? If so, how many are SMI?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com]On Behalf Of Bill
>Rosenfeld
>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:51 AM
>To: pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>
>Because the lucky 100 who get the service doesn't match the mission of
>primary care, which serves everybody who walks through the door.  That
>is one of another 300 reasons that I could cite.    Hope you are well!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of
>Kessler, Rodger S.
>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:06 AM
>To: 'pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com'
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>Hi Bill, Why do you think the co location didn't work??Rodger
>
>Rodger Kessler Ph.D. ABPP
>Research Assistant Professor
>Department of Family Medicine
>Center for Translational Science
>University of Vermont College of Medicine
>Berlin Family Health
>Fletcher Allen Healthcare
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com
>[mailto:pc-bh-integration-bounces at lists101.his.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>Schlesinger
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:44 PM
>To: pc-bh-integration at lists101.his.com
>Subject: Re: [PC-BH-Integration] integration proposals
>
>We've been working with the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health for about
>three years.  We're an FQHC and using the care manager model similar to
>IMPACT.  We tried co-location - it didn't work.  We've been funded for
>service expansion funds from HRSA which stabilized the project.  I'll be
>glad to respond to specific requests for information -- the Hogg website
>has
>a lot of the model information at
>http://www.hogg.utexas.edu/programs_ihc.html
>
>
>Bill Schlesinger
>Project Vida
>3607 Rivera Ave
>El Paso, TX 79905
>(915) 533-7057 x 207
>(915) 490-6148 mobile
>(915) 533-7158 fax
>bschlesinger.pv at tachc.org
>
>
>
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Nancy S. Halloran, MPH
Program Development, Proposals, & Project Management
Health Equity Partnership & Community Institute for Healthcare Equity
614 Grand Ave, Suite 400
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