[Intelforum] Rendition and U.S. Intelligence

[Christopher Farmer]

Mr. Erskine,

You have avoided the key points that I was making. Why did Amnesty 
International conduct counterintelligence operations against the Central 
Intelligence Agency's rendition program? Did an organization such as Amnesty 
assist the Italian government in the unraveling of covert operations being 
conducted against terrorists in Italy? Why did Amnesty International label 
U.S. prisoner of war facilities "the gulags of our time", and yet 
purposefully shield the real gulag archipelego in North Korea? Why were 
North Korean citizens that were seeking to flee those perversions in the 
North Korean state criticized by Amnesty for going to China, and recommended 
to stay in North Korea? Why has Amnesty International made no mention of 
pregnant North Korean women having their babies killed by North Korean 
agents simply because the fathers of those babies were Chinese before the 
North Korean women were repatriated back to North Korea (with Amnesty's 
blessing). The Amnesty reports do, in fact, blame the victim.

The Korean War came about because Moaist and Leninist Communists wanted the 
newly emerging United Nations to fail out of the starting gate. The North 
Korean question must be resolved if globalization is to be credible, but 
that is a subject of another debate.

Professor Alan Dershowitz understands the enemy the west faces in Jihad. 
Professor Dershowitz is simply telling us that if you guarantee your enemy 
immunity as your enemy kills your people without any just restraint, you are 
surrendering to your enemy.

In Dahab, Sinai, 30 people were killed and over 100 were wounded by suicide 
bombers. I have been to Dahab myself in the early 1990s, and if there was 
ever a defenseless target, that was it. Now explain to me Mr. Erskine, that 
if one of those suicide bombers was captured before the attack, why the 
terrorist would not be a candidate for interrogation. I say that because I 
completely disagree with your thesis that we should respect these terrorists 
because to do so is to go quietly into the night like the unsuspecting 
tourists in Dahab at our own collective peril.

Christopher Farmer


>From: Ralph Erskine <re33 at meltemi1.demon.co.uk>
>Reply-To: intelforum at his.com
>To: intelforum at his.com
>Subject: Re: [Intelforum] Rendition and U.S. Intelligence
>Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:43:49 +0100

>This is almost putting words in my mouth. Mr Farmer must have misread my
>post. I have not referred to this topic, and did not suggest that there is
>any such 'policy evidence'. Instead, I only referred to rendition to
>countries practising torture.
>
>Ralph Erskine
>
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