[Intelforum] Fixing intelligence

[Mike Anders]

I think there was something on the Discovery Channel, (or was it a CNN 
Special), about the French approach to CI. I am afraid I missed it.  The 
best I can come up with is this Bruce Crumley piece from Time. . .

    Fighting Terrorism: Lessons from France
    France has been remarkably successful in thwarting Islamist terrorism.
    The French experience holds some challenging lessons for the U.S.
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,176139,00.html

What struck me in Crumley's piece was this phrase "... a set of laws 
that would (and in France at times did) make civil libertarians' hair 
stand on end."

Perhaps the Patriot Act isn't all that bad after all--might even need to 
be stiffened a bit here and there. Unfortunately, that's not likely to 
happen until after another 9/11 event. Pity. I try not to be a pessimist 
on these sorts of things, really! :->)

/vr
Mike Anders

Bill Gross wrote:

> If I am not in error, I believe the French have several successes in 
> this arena.  I seem to recall a story that an Al Qeada linked group 
> was rolled up by the French in the immediate aftermath of 11 Sept. 01. 
> This group (if my memory serves) had targeted the Cathedral in 
> Strasbourg.  The actions by the French prevented this attack.
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> Interestingly enough, French security has been very busy of late, and 
> surprisingly effective. Perhaps some lessons learned can be got from 
> them . . .
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> French Arrests 'Linked to Zarqawi' 
> <http://www.ds-osac.org/News/story.cfm?contentID=39746>
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> Europe - France French counterterrorism agents on Thursday arrested 
> three suspects believed to have "indirect links" to al Qaeda in Iraq 
> leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a police spokeswoman said. more... 
> <http://www.ds-osac.org/News/story.cfm?contentID=39746>
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>Note, that having "indirect links" can get you arrested in France. In the U.S., we are still arguing over aspects of the Patriot Act that makes one wonder whether we are really serious about this whole thing. Perhaps French law is different. What do you think?
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