[Intelforum] War crimes
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From: "Christopher Farmer" <antiluminous at msn.com>
To: intelforum at lists101.his.com
Subject: Re: War crimes
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:14:15 -0400
>From: "Mario Profaca" <mario.profaca at zg.htnet.hr>
>To: <intelforum at his.com>
>Subject: RE: War crimes
>Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:34:09 +0200
>Documents emerging from once-closed Soviet archives are forcing historians
>to rewrite the history of the last days of World War II and reassess the
>impact of the Hiroshima bomb on Japan's surrender.
The Soviets snuck forces from the victorius eastern front via rail to
Manchuria. While that was occurring, the Japanese high command
ordered the Kwangtung Army back to the main islands for homeland
defense from the pending American invasion that the Japanese knew was
imminent. The Japanese miscalcuated the size and scope of the
Manchurian withdrawal because they did not know exactly what the
total force structure would be that the American command would commit
to attack the main islands. So when the Soviet Army was in motion,
the Japanese forces were withdrawing from Manchuria.
The Japanese goal to defend the main islands was to be through the
deployment of 5,000,000 infantry and support soldiers to stave off
any conventional American attack. The Japanese Kwangtung Army
components in Manchuria were degraded through the entire war as the
Russians were busy to the east and the costs of engaging America in
the Pacific climbed.
What that means then is that Japan had no intention to surrender
prior to the use of the Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the
US Air Force.
President Harry Truman, himself a Captain during World War I with
Battery D, 129th Field Artillery of the 35th Infantry Division, was a
member of the expeditionary force and knew direct combat with the
enemy up close and personal. Based upon his previous war experience
where he disposed of numerous enemy personnel, the projected casualty
estimates of US forces submitted by military planners in the War
Department and the fact that the Red Army was moving east in secret,
President Truman decided to use every component in the US arsenal to
defeat Japan, as he rightly and justly did so.
The claim that the Russian Army was instrumental in causing Japan to
surrender instead of US intervention is pretty laughable scholarship,
but I will be interested to see what has been "drummed up" in the
secret Soviet archives before I comment further.
Know this, the United States had absorbed 83,000 casualties on the
approach to the main islands in places such as Iwo Jima, with over
13,000 casualties in the US Navy alone from Kamakazi attacks upon US
surface vessels. The fact that Japan was pulling infantry forces from
Manchuria to reinforce mainland island positions to increase troops
strength to 5,000,000 men would have made the islands impenetrable to
Russian military advances beyond Manchuria. The Russians had no naval
capability whatsoever to deal with Japan and secure their
That will be the obvious and irreconcileable flaw to the new "force
history to change" book when it comes out.
With US war planners projecting up to 4,000,000 US casualties in the
final assault on Japan, it is clear and based upon historical truth
and evidence that Japan would embrace the first use of nuclear
weapons. It is also important to recognize what the American people
would have thought of their own government had the bomb been
developed and not used in lue of sending our boys to die instead in
numbers greater than the European conflict.
The Russians also knew that after their adventures in Manchuria and
with no naval capability worthy of an amphibious attack upon Japan,
any further hostilities by them upon Japan once we secured the
country would cause Russia to cease to exist as a political entity.
The Japanese had cabled Russia (supposedly) about surrender but the
Japanese wanted full control over the territory of the Koreas, a
partial withdrawal from China, full Japanese control over Japanese
disarmament and full Japanese control over war crimes trials and
post-war activities in that area.
For obvious reasons we would never allow that to happen.
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