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Sun Feb 25 19:16:16 EST 2001
>I have the feeling that we are present at the creation of false information
>in its absurdity that it cannot be dealt with except by the use of barnyard
>John Logan Burrow
>MODERATOR'S Note (Mike Dravis):
>Should I.F. members choose to respond to Mr. Roads' theories about Harry
>Hopkins, I would ask them to adhere to the "civility clause" of the I.F.
>- I.F. is a scholarly discussion group, and members are expected to act in
>a professional and courteous manner at all times.
>- It is inappropriate to question the credentials or character of another
>member of I.F.
>> Meanwhile, I would point out that the USA airlifted thousands of tonnes
>> of supplies, including the plans and ingredients for the A-bomb, directly
>> to Soviet Russia during WWII.
>> This was conducted under the Lend Lease scheme.
>> The contents of the planes were challenged by the officer in charge of
>> the airfield in the USA, (Major Racey Jordan); BUT, the orders were
>> initialled by Harry Hopkins.
>> So, there is certainly a papertrail leading to Harry Hopkins'
>> authorisation of said materials to be sent to Russia.
I do not understand Mr Logan Burrow's comments. Maybe he would care to
elaborate on which fact was absurd.
And I would point out to the moderator that these are not theories about
Harry Hopkins, these are facts.
A theory is something created by stringing facts together. I have not
made any conclusions from the facts - yet.
If these facts upset list members, then I apologise. It is certainly not
my intention to cause dissent. I am merely curious about the whole
Jordan/Lend Lease/Hopkins saga and what it means.
MODERATOR'S Response (Mike Dravis):
The purpose of my note appended after Mr. Burrow's post was to prevent a
possible flame-war involving the use of "barnyard epithets", not to weigh
in on the substance of Mr. Roads' discussion of Harry Hopkins. However, I
stand by my application of the word "theory" to describe the assertion that
Harry Hopkins was responsible for the transfer of "plans and ingredients
for the A-bomb" to Soviet Russia during World War II.
I have not researched the reliability of Major Jordan's book, but
knowledgeable scholars have done so, and some of them have found Jordan to
be seriously wanting (to be fair, others do consider him more reliable).
As I recall, there was a rather lengthy exchange on this very question
(Jordan's reliability) on the diplomatic history discussion group H-Diplo,
I think in 1999 (it may still be available on their web site).
In any case, what Mr. Roads takes as "fact" I take as unproven "theory"
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