Canadian Intelligence and Northern Ireland
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Wed Apr 18 12:41:13 EDT 2001
Warkintel at aol.com wrote:
> Dear Ron Jack,
> I am sure there is no evidence for Canadian intelligence support for British
> intelligence operations in Northern Ireland. The very notion betrays lack of
> understanding about the nature of Canadian intelligence (not to mention the
> nature of British intelligence). Canada had its own intelligence collection
> priorities, which never included Northern Ireland, and like all small and
> under-funded intelligence communities had to be very parsimonious about what
> they did.
> Maurice Tugwell's connection to Northern Ireland was as a British army
> Wesley K. Wark
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With all due respect Prof. Wark, what my post betrays is a healthy
missing pieces together. I am not an acadenic - I note that there are at
academics who subscribe to this mailgroup - and I approach Intelligence
a layman's point of view. As I told you privately, my perception is that
the published authorities in Canadian Intelligence studies write
busy themselves with mutually supportive book reviews. Maybe I can be
it's what keeps people like me in the bushes, rather than attending CASIS
of the most important revelations of our Intelligence history have come,
come from foreign archives.
Brig. Tugwell was indeed a career soldier of note, a CBE, and quite
possibly a friend
I didn't attack him. I just want to know more about his period as a highly
of Black Ops in Northern Ireland. I never suggested that Ireland was a
target did I? What I suggested is that Canada - UK intelligence sharing
(sorry, I should be more careful - data on Irish revolutionaries, terrorists,
politicians and journalists)
appears not to have yet been defined a suitable topic for research and
of the answers
will be found in our military and industry record groups, not merely in SS
Did breakthrough Canadian research into voice recognition technology,
get employed against the Irish? Was any of this federally funded, and
seconded to the UK to assist in operational trials? Did it lead to
Ireland or in England?
Is that proveable by skilled researchers? Did Canada help the Brits
North America? If so, are the details interesting?
How were such activities, if conducted, managed in order to safeguard Canadian
If SAS and other specialist teams conducted training at Gagetown, Borden
facilities in the 1970s and 80s, what was the payback? Was the sharing
The catchphrase in those days was "Low Intensity Operations", as I recall.
the era of the FLQ,
Black September, Baader-Meinhof, and Ottawa's paranoia over 1976 Olympics
It was an interesting time.
I could go on Sir, but the point is merely to suggest that you cannot
query by simply
saying we had no Intelligence collecting "priority" in Northern Ireland. I
counter intelligence work against the Communist Chinese has been a
decades - and yet
is not of much interest to our stable of writers working security -
topics. When is someone going to
attempt to stuff a book or a maybe a large rubber boot, into the
which swallows everything
to do with PRC operations in Canada?
Let's keep it friendly. I admire your work, but I have side interests.
Ron Jack on the Left Coast of Canada
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